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  • "Ensemble […] wins the French legislative election but loses its majority": Have you seen a single source saying it is a victory? Put it simpler: "Ensemble […] loses its absolute majority in the French legislative election". —-Fanfwah (talk) 07:43, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The original discussion at Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#(Posted)_French_legislative_election had some people wanting there to be some mention of winning. It's probably better to take it up there for consideration. —Bagumba (talk) 08:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    The discussion at ITNC touched on whether "plurality" was a well-known enough term, but the thrust was that "wins the most seats" was the most accurate and recognizable way to phrase it, so I've amended to that. As the OP notes, sources aren't generally framing it as an outright "win" so I think it was inaccurate to say that.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:12, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I took it that the OP was saying that "wins [the most seats]" isn't the focus of most coverage (which is probably true). I had the same thoughts of whether winning the most seats can be simplified as "wins", but didn't think that was the question. —Bagumba (talk) 10:03, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh yes, I see what you mean. I agree with you that we shouldn't change to the proposed formulation, anyway. ITNC did explicitly reject phrasing it with the term "losing" and our blurbs generally do use this "wins the most seats" phrasing, which is certainly how it is described in sources, alongside the failure to achieve a majority.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:27, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • ... that model Tyra Banks produces the show Generation Drag, a competition for children competing in a drag show?

Redundancy! Show, drag, and competition are all said twice, and except for "drag" unnecessarily so.

  • ... that model Tyra Banks produces the drag show Generation Drag, a competition for children?

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  • ... that children compete in the drag show Generation Drag, produced by model Tyra Banks?

Fram (talk) 08:39, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You say that "drag" is repeated twice, but both the suggestions keep a second drag while also moving it closer to the first. I'm not convinced we need to change anything here... Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 09:21, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also, if I understand correctly, Generation Drag is not actually a drag show, it's a TV show which features a drag show within it.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:24, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the hook seems to be, on further inspection, simply wrong as it isn't a competition, but more of a reality show following children (well, teenagers) preparing for a drag ball, without eliminations or other competitive elements (at least neither our article nor the source for the hook[1] seem to mention any such elements). In fact, the hook which we are discussing was rejected at the DYK nomination, so no idea how it ended up here. Best to pull it and check slowly what the hook should be (not a competition with people competing, please). Fram (talk) 09:39, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fair point, and I have no idea how that happened. I'm editing on phone right now but will replace the hook later today if nobody else does so first.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:29, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging nom/creator @Kbabej valereee (talk) 16:01, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Valereee and @Amakuru. Thanks for reviewing. From my understanding, the original hooks I suggested were declined, but @Sammi Brie suggested the hook "...that model Tyra Banks produces Generation Drag, a TV series which follows five children competing in a drag show?" I believe that addresses the above points and I thought that was the one moved forward. "Drag" is only mentioned once (outside the show title); ditto for "competing"/competition, and "show". Happy to do whatever needed to help make this DYK work; I'm quite new to the DYK process, despite editing for years. This is my third DYK overall! Any thoughts apprecaited. --Kbabej (talk) 16:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a competition, no one is competing. Or at the very least, neither the article nor the source used for the hook mention anything about competing or something similar. I hope I don't come here tomorrow to see that this has made it like this to the main page anyway. Fram (talk) 16:19, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sammi Brie and Theleekycauldron: one of you approved a hook, the other promoted a rejected hook, some input welcome here. Fram (talk) 16:21, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The rejected hook promotion was my fault, both individually and programmatically – my hook promotion script, PSHAW, doesn't currently have a mechanism to indicate or remove stricken hooks. I went in meaning to promote ALT0a, but instead made that error. Happy to substitute for ALT0a, of course. theleekycauldron (talkcontribs) (she/they) 16:44, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Schwede66 19:20, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

PLEASE. What is so difficult about what I wrote a few times already. IT'S NOT A COMPETITION. How is it possible that the people here and at DYK have so much trouble getting a few sentences right, even when the issues are explained again and again. Fram (talk) 20:32, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • ... that model Tyra Banks produces Generation Drag, a TV series which follows five teens preparing for a drag show?  MANdARAXXAЯAbИAM  20:55, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • minus Replaced - per Fram's points and my earlier comment, I have removed this and will reopen the nom page. The hook was not the one that was approved, and also all the hooks seem to have issues with the "competition" aspect of the show. Errors isn't the place for coming up with new hooks. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:16, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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