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You've been mentioned on an RFC

Hello there PantheonRadiance! I hope you are well, my friend. It's been a minute. A while back, we were both involved in a discussion concerning Deji's notability. I've finally found the time to create an RFC, which you've been pinged on. Check it out! Hope you've been well. DrewieStewie (talk) 21:49, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Hey DrewieStewie, sorry for the wait, I took an unofficial Wikibreak to finish my finals. Good job taking the initiative in setting up the RfC! I've actually been periodically searching for more sources these past few months about Deji to ensure that he meets the guidelines. Maybe depending on how the RfC goes I'll post a source table of what I've found that contributes to his notability. If you found any new sources, let me know too! Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 21:40, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

Wonderful! If I find anything, I’ll let you know. Hopefully we can get access to a previous draft from around the time of the prior deletion review. It would be a great thing to build on so we wouldn’t have to start from scratch. A positive RFC result would certainly help with that. There certainly has been no opposition to a draft at minimum thus far. Glad you enjoyed your brief wikibreak. :) DrewieStewie (talk) 22:50, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

The RFC has now been closed in favor of starting a draft and removing Deji from DEEPER. Is there any avenue to request a copy of a deleted article circa October 2022-January 2023 as a draft blueprint? I recall them being significant and well-sourced. Good work on providing sources that passed a source review in the RFC. We will have to request unsalting for Draft:Deji Olatunji too. DrewieStewie (talk) 03:22, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

@DrewieStewie: I would say to post another deletion review to ask to restore the draft, but considering that DRV was what led us here in the first place and we just had the lengthy RfC, I think it would be faster if we just show the admin who deleted the draft the RfC and request them to restore and unsalt it, either in draftspace or one of our sandboxes. If you want to also work on creating a draft from scratch, I can also give you a couple sources as well to help you. PantheonRadiance (talk) 21:30, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

The Draft is live again. First thing we will need to handle is replacing fandom content with reliably sourced content. DrewieStewie (talk) 16:05, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

DrewieStewie Hey, it's great that we finally have access to the draft! I wrote down parts of the career section yesterday so I'll post it to the draft. After that I'll check and edit the draft occasionally to see its progress, but I'll let you work on fixing up the rest. When you’re ready to submit, be my guest! I'll write a message on the talk page explaining Deji's notability and making sure AfC editors understand his notability compared to the multiple times his article was deleted before.

Also, if you find any more reliable sources, feel free to add. You should have access to the Wikipedia Library, but there are also places that might also have coverage on Deji - Google Scholar, Newspapers.com, Google Books, etc. PantheonRadiance (talk) 16:45, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Appreciate your help! Now that I’ve gotten all the bureaucratic business handled, I am now finally happy to work on this. Let’s make some WikiMagic! DrewieStewie (talk) 16:48, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Yep :) PantheonRadiance (talk) 17:20, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Merger discussion for List of Smosh cast members

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Your GA nomination of Etika

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Etika and Reckful

Hey, I saw your work in getting the Etika article to GA status and wanted to congratulate you on it.

I'm just wondering, but do you think you can get the article on Reckful (who also died by suicide) to GA status in the near future if you have the time? Many thanks! 2600:8800:5232:DD00:A521:649A:6903:5E72 (talk) 02:02, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello to whoever wrote this message. I don't know if the person who asked this will find my response, but in case it does, thank you for asking me. About Reckful, I didn't have any plans to get his article to GA status because I've only heard of him passingly through the internet grapevine. However, upon reading his article I found his story quite compelling, and think there may be potential here for GA. Perhaps in the near future I'd be down with working on his article, but I'll probably wait if any of the main editors of the Reckful article also have plans to bring it to GA status. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 02:45, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) It looks like that article doesn't have a primary contributor, though Brojam did the largest share of work on it and might be worth asking his thoughts. (The second highest contributor is a blocked sock.) Vaticidalprophet 05:21, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, maybe if I do decide to work on it in the future, I'll contact him about it. PantheonRadiance (talk) 03:00, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

The Creative Gene

I noticed you mentioned that one was from a wikiproject that does "B-Class assessments", so isn't technically B-class -- it is now :) BCR was a thing that was fairly popular years ago, but imo isn't relevant or workable on modern Wikipedia -- the military history project uses it, though, so it technically still exists.

By the way, that article could pass GAN easily, and probably FAC. The notable-to-GANable and GAN-to-FAC lines are pretty thin for books, so there are a lot of them amongst quality-assessed articles (1.7% of WikiProject Books articles are GA or FA, compared to 0.7% of all articles). The GAN backlog drive is coming up soon (I strongly recommend participating, btw), so it might not take too long to get reviewed if you nominate it now. It also might be an easier article to learn how FAC works while working on Etika, if you're interested in taking it there. Vaticidalprophet 06:26, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Vaticidalprophet Oh wow, thanks for the reassessment! Funny thing, I actually planned on nominating The Creative Gene as my first GA so I could have a DYK fact about the book appear on Kojima's birthday (August 24th), but I decided to shift focus to see if I could get Etika to appear on DYK first. I was going to nominate the book last month, but I kept putting it off to the point where I felt it was too late for it to appear on DYK on his birthday. However, if the GAN drive is happening soon, maybe there's a slight chance it could get on DYK on the 24th if I get timely feedback. If I have time tomorrow, I'll try to revise the page then nominate it this weekend.

As for the drive, I may check it out but I can't keep any promises. This upcoming month may be quite busy for me, so if I do decide to participate I'll probably only have time to review one article. Maybe the next time a GAN drive happens I'll have a lot more time (and experience) to help out with it. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 20:00, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Vaticidalprophet Edit: I decided to nominate it for GA. If you have time and want to review it, feel free. Otherwise, thanks once again! PantheonRadiance (talk) 00:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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Hmm, that's odd. Looks like the moment I nominated it on the 28th, it got immediately removed and "approved" for nomination, yet it wasn't reviewed yet and I didn't see it on the approved page. Is this a mistake or glitch of some kind? Has this happened before? Pinging admin theleekycauldron. PantheonRadiance (talk) 18:15, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Weird! Looks like WugBot edit conflicted with you, loading up and editing the version of the page that existed before you transcluded your nom. I've retranscluded it for you, should be fine now :) pinging Wugapodes as bot op, in case there's any race conditions they want to put in for this. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 21:37, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Great, thank you so much! PantheonRadiance (talk) 23:56, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

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AfD comment

Hi PantheonRadiance, why did you write "If this somehow gets closed as delete instead of relisted, I'm considering doing a deletion review anyway" in this diff? That isn't how Deletion Review works - you don't foreshadow a deletion review within an active discussion. It comes across as trying to create a chilling effect for what may have been a legitimate course of action (closing as 'delete'). I can't say I have ever seen someone foreshadow taking a discussion to DRV before it's even been closed in my time editing, and I don't want to see it become a thing that happens - and on that basis, I would encourage you to strike that part of your comment in the discussion. Regards, Daniel (talk) 00:10, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Hello Daniel, I said it not for a chilling effect, but rather because of the timing. At the time I first replied to the discussion, I saw that it had been a week since the AfD first started (11/25) and I thought the debate would close soon. Since the consensus seemed to sway towards delete, I half-expected that the debate would most likely close instead of a relist, even with the two late keep votes. There have been times (2 exactly) where I managed to get to an AfD late and share my thoughts, only for the debate to close. And for the record, if it did close as delete, I would have asked the closer first in line with the DRV policy, but I guess I didn't communicate that as well as I thought - my apologies. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 00:25, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Two things I'd like to expand on - one wording, and one to do with WP:DRVPURPOSE.

Firstly, you wrote "If this somehow gets closed as delete instead of relisted, I'm considering doing a deletion review anyways". The word "somehow" strongly implies that you find it incredulous that an administrator may close as delete, despite there being a pretty clear consensus to delete at the stage you wrote the comment. This only adds to the chilling effect that is created in my opinion - you're passively criticising a decision in advance. If you want evidence of said chilling effect happening from your comment, please consider the fact that I've decided not to close this because I don't want the inevitable run at DRV you've foreshadowed. I normally don't shy away from closing tough AfD's - there's a section on my talk page about this very thing - but that comment in the discussion has made me not want to go near closing it.

Secondly, I don't understand what rationale of DRVPURPOSE your hypothetical DRV would be filed under - it can't be #1, as a consensus potentially exists to delete (and definitely did when you wrote your comment). I also don't believe #3 applies as you haven't really brought "new information", simply an alternate policy interpretation. I guess you could potentially argue #5 on the basis that you commented late and your comment wasn't considered by others for long enough, but my gut feeling would be that it wouldn't be a slam-dunk - and definitely not black-and-white enough to be calling out in advance.

I'd still like you to strike that sentence in the AfD - or alternatively, at a minimum, consider striking some and rewording it to better capture your intent around it being relating to your late !vote (per your comment above). Up to you though, and I won't press the issue any further if you disagree and want to leave it unchanged.

Thanks, Daniel (talk) 00:37, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

I struck the sentence in my recent edit, along with adding extra sources. I initially wanted to add those in my original comment, but I felt it was already long enough (but ironically I added another long comment as well - brevity's something I need to improve on a lot more). So I omitted it on the outcome that it would get relisted, and if it didn't, planned on sharing them with the closer while asking for a relist first. If the closer and I disagreed, then the DRV would've taken place as it usually does.

Anyway, I would've applied both #3 and #5 of the policy in that hypothetical DRV. It was my intention to ask for a relist for more time to consider the late votes Skyshifter and I added, along with deeper discussion on the sources. For #3 I felt (at the time) that my vote wasn't just an alternate policy interpretation, but qualified as new information that would've furthered the debate - that the streamer also fits other potential SNGs that weren't considered yet in the discussion. And of course in light of such SNGs, discussing whether the sources presented in the article proved that he passes such criteria. And you explained my thought process for #5; thank you for that.

After reading your response, I see how my actions created that chilling effect. I admittedly acted hastily when I saw that it had been a week, and was fretful it would close. So I tried applying common sense by considering a potential course of action: if an AfD was nearing its end, and there was the possibility of no relist even with a late vote, then perhaps consider a DRV. In retrospect, that was quite misguided judgement on my part. My apologies towards you and any other potential closers of the debate, as it was not my intention. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 02:05, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Northernlion

Hi. I think you did a good job with Northernlion and if you had the time to GA nominate it, I would be happy to review it as part of the March 2024 backlog drive. Although, heads up that I wouldn't be able to take a look until next week at the earliest (but would still push to finish it as part of the month drive). Mokadoshi (talk) 23:33, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Oh, thank you so much! To be honest though, I feel Northernlion would need more work with its sourcing first - there are some SPSs that could be trimmed, and I'd like to find more sources to expand it. However, I've considered GA nominating BrolyLegs this month, as I feel it has good potential. If you're still interested, I'd be more than happy to nominate it next week or so; it just needs a picture first. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 00:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not familiar with BrolyLegs and am not sure if I could give it a good review. For NL, keep in mind that there is no length requirement for a GA, and so to solve some of the SPS problems, you might just move them to the Talk page. Whenever you feel like coming back to NL, feel free to ping me. Mokadoshi (talk) 00:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

That's okay, and I'll think about nominating NL soon. Also, I may also consider reviewing Tyler1 since it would be my first GA review. I can't make any promises, but if nobody else steps up to review by next week, I'll see if I can try it out. Thanks, PantheonRadiance (talk) 01:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I really appreciate that, but since I've offered to review your NL article, I would prefer you not review any of my GA articles so there is no appearance of quid-pro-quo. I don't think it's against the rules or anything but I want the article to be the best it can be so I want the reviewer to be as unbiased as possible. Thank you though! Mokadoshi (talk) 01:14, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Fair enough. Once again, good luck with your nomination! PantheonRadiance (talk) 03:00, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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