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Question from Deirdre A. Lopian on WEJS (20:20, 18 March 2024)[edit]

Hey Robertsky - I can't find any reputable sources for this wiki page. Also, the subheader titles lack clarity. I could probably add their station logo and change their subheaders - or do you suggest I just move on? --Deirdre A. Lopian (talk) 20:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deirdre A. Lopian there's one more option for you, if you have done the work of verifying if the article, feel free to remove the unsourced text. Do clearly state in your edit summary that you were unable to find sources for these statements. It will be the onus of the person reverting you to present sources for these unsourced statements. About the station logo, there's no harm in uploading the logo. Just remember to upload as a non-free file. – robertsky (talk) 03:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting and voting in requested moves[edit]

Hi Robertsky could you explain why you !voted and relisted Talk:Baike.com#Requested move 29 February 2024 which is supervoting per WP:RMRELIST? Lightoil (talk) 10:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lightoil there was no firm comments on whether to support or oppose on the move when I was processing through RMC to close discussions in the backlog and relisted it so to give more time to others to respond to the discussion. At that point in time, I had no opinion on which way the discussion should be closed. When it hit the Elapsed section again, I decided to take a closer deeper look at the sources to see if it can substantiate what is essentially a WP:NAMECHANGE request. I didn't feel comfortable closing the discussion as it is and register it as an oppose instead, which other editors may respond to, and at least one other editor had done so. It didn't register to me that it would be seen as a supervote when I commented on the discussion. – robertsky (talk) 11:23, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay please be more careful and don't relist and vote in a move discussion again, thanks. Lightoil (talk) 11:34, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Tinkaer1991 (16:16, 22 March 2024)[edit]

Im having trouble creating templates, how do i do? --Tinkaer1991 (talk) 16:16, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tinkaer1991, see Help:Template#Writing templates for creating a template. If you have a specific template in mind and you have come across similar ones in other articles, use these existing templates as a base, copy them into your sandbox and modify from there. The setup can be, template under development: "User:Tinkaer1991/TemplateTest", and in your sandbox or draft, just tranclude {{User:Tinkaer1991/TemplateTest}} to verify that the tranclusion works as expected. Once your template is done, you can have it moved into the Template namespace. – robertsky (talk) 03:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are we really going to use mapa-metro.com and belarusfeed.com (dead link) as evidence of strong RS to the point it is not "no consensus" but "not moved"? Mellk (talk) 03:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mellk, are there any indications of these sources not being reliable ones? belarusfeed.com being dead does not mean that it cannot be used still, especially not when it has been archived. i.e. [1]. – robertsky (talk) 03:49, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mentioned that if we were going purely by what name appears the most in sources, then in this case it would be "Moskovskaya" (another example [2]). The current title neither follows WP:COMMONNAME nor WP:BELARUSIANNAMES. Mellk (talk) 04:01, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Rokokiropo (12:03, 25 March 2024)[edit]

What's the purpose of editing wikipedia ? --Rokokiropo (talk) 12:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What the Dead Men Say (album)[edit]

Do you know why What the Dead Men Say (album) was not moved? --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jax 0677 That's the consensus. To elaborate further, WP:RECENTISM for a start, a 4 year-old item vs a 60 year-old item (what's the long term significance of the book vs the album)?
Looking at the pageview data of both article (since you are basing your rationale to move on it), the book could still draw in a steady stream of pageviews (and even a 2x uplift for 2 years prior to the previous RM) after 60 years of its existence, can the album also draw in the same steady stream of pageviews? Was the uplift due to the book or some other factors? The difference in pageviews itself is not the only factor when evaluating for primary topic take over in general, but it generally does help in vacating the primary topic as it did in the early RM. I suggest that a delay renomination for about four to six months for the dust to settle in relation to searchability and reachability of either articles. By then with wikinav and the pageview tools, one would be able to tell if the steady stream of pageviews for the books was because it is the book that people are looking for or because it was for album, and they had limited choices and landed through the book to go to the album; or that the drop in daily traffic for the album has improved or reversed. – robertsky (talk) 14:27, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-13[edit]

MediaWiki message delivery 18:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for closing the request, but it should be Teatralna Metro Station (Sofia Metro). I apologize for the typo in my response, which I only noticed now. The city is Sofia. Thanks. Ymblanter (talk) 22:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ymblanter thanks for following up. – robertsky (talk) 22:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Requested moves policy question[edit]

Does Talk:Ad Infinitum (band)#Requested move 9 March 2024 on Special:PermanentLink/1214526275 allow for the move of Ad Infinitum (metal band) even though there was no talk page notice on the later? I ask because you were the relisting admin.microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 02:05, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Immediate follow-up: I've done it and I want to clarify—I did it not because I assumed silence on a 20 minute-old talk page question meant approval (I hate when people do that on my talk page), instead I did it BOLDly because it seemed inline with policy and the overal consensus on the discussion would have leaned to do it. I also assume it could be undone as an undiscused move, of which I wouldn't have a problem. In doing the move, I left an {{old move}} template and my new question is is that propper, given the context of my above question. Thanks in advance for the guidance. microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 02:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MicrobiologyMarcus that's interesting. I always thought that such additions would have trigger the bot to add the necessary notifications on the corresponding article and talk pages. @Wbm1058 is this supposed to be the case for the RMCD bot or was there something that changed? – robertsky (talk) 06:19, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since 15 November 2021‎ (v 7.67), the bot doesn't post notifications more than one week after the RM was listed, to mitigate potential edit conflicts with closes in progress; issue reported here. Since then, a newer enhancement made on 17 February 2024‎ (v 8.40) limits the bot to three recent edits in subject-space, to stop it from edit-warring over changes to sync modified subject page notices, but that won't stop the bot from re-posting notices after a closer has removed them. Some day I may make the bot even smarter regards to these; better cleanup and reporting/record-keeping after closed RMs still on my back burner. – wbm1058 (talk) 12:25, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wbm1058 I see. Maybe an additional switch in the template on the talk page to force update the notifications if there's any significant changes like this case? I.e. |update=1 after the bot is done with the new notifications, it can reset/remove the parameter. – robertsky (talk) 12:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Heck no, I wouldn't want to further complicate the template by adding a new, obscure parameter to it. I might could change the limit from the original list date & time to the current listed date & time, which would be the date that the RM was relisted, if it was relisted. That would extend the window for posting notifications another week, which would be fine if the relisted RM were allowed to run for another full week. But that would open the possibility for edit conflicts with closers if the RM were closed during its relist week. Of course, the current algorithm has the potential for conflicts with "speedy" closes, but we shouldn't have very many of those, theoretically. I've already added two functions to the bot's framework that look into a page's edit history, to serve two different purposes; I suppose I could add a third function to serve this purpose, by reporting how many edits the bot has made to the page since the RM opened, and allow the bot to post notices as long as the bot had not previously edited the page since the RM opened. We're getting into an area of diminishing returns here, where to accommodate ever more unusual and infrequently occurring scenarios, I need to spend ever increasing amounts of time working on coding workarounds. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wbm1058 Noted. I will try to remember to manually place the banners then if such a case happens again. – robertsky (talk) 23:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Larajt.smith005 (13:02, 26 March 2024)[edit]

Hello I want to upload a new wikipedia page about myself, Lara Smith, CEO of listed Antimony Company and written several articles and given key note addresses on critical metals.

Please advise how to get started. --Larajt.smith005 (talk) 13:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Larajt.smith005 If you are notable per WP:NBIO, someone else will write about you. I suggest reading through Wikipedia:Autobiography before embarking on this endeavour by yourself. As for writing other articles, you are welcome to write as long as there is no conflict of interest. I have dropped a bunch of links on your talk page which can guide you through your editing journey. – robertsky (talk) 00:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Minhuaty (17:05, 27 March 2024)[edit]

Hi how do i save as draft? --Minhuaty (talk) 17:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]