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A barnstar for your patience in helping people[edit]

The Barnstar of Diligence
You have the patience of Job when you help editors with technical problems, and I thought you deserved some formal recognition for it.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:29, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you[edit]

The Barnstar of Diligence
I don't remember whether I've ever given you a barnstar before; if not, it's long overdue. Thank you so much for helping me time and time again, as well as helping many other users.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:19, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]


Thank You[edit]

"Appreciation Knucks"
These knucks symbolize my appreciation for the Wiki teamsters, such as yourself, who create pathways to knowledge through their diligent efforts working quietly behind the scenes. As a user I am grateful, now more than ever, so I felt prompted to say hello and show gratitude by saying thanks for setting an example for users, such as myself, to contribute more. Stay blessed, Saint, Stephen Gunning (talk) 09:39, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Precious anniversary[edit]

Precious
Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy First Edit Day![edit]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 November. It will be on all wikis from 2 November (calendar).
  • Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 2 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for many languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [3][4]
  • Starting November 1, the impact module (Special:Impact) will be upgraded by the Growth team. The new impact module shows newcomers more data regarding their impact on the wiki. It was tested by a few wikis during the last few months. [5]

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mediawiki:Newpages-summary[edit]

Hi Xaosflux, thanks for protecting and editing my fork of the Page Curation script. I noticed that you had edited the MediaWiki page to include the script, but I think you might have substituted the wrong link. The fork is of this script which is linked in the sentence "A user script for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available". Could you link it there instead please? All the best and thanks for your IntAdmin work. Schminnte [talk to me] 19:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Schminnte hi there, sorry if I got the wrong link somewhere and I'll certainly work to fix it. I'm not exactly what needs to be changed though, could you clarify? Which page needs to be edited, and which text should be changed to which new text? Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 19:24, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly :)
  • The page that needs to be edited is MediaWiki:Newpages-summary,
  • The line at the bottom (An alternative script is available for the same.) should be reverted back to An alternative script is available for the same. as this is a different script from the one in forking,
  • The link in the fmbox (A user script for accessing the Page Curation tool is also available.) should either be changed to link to User:Schminnte/PageCuration, or the redirect should be re-targeted to that page.
Thanks again, Schminnte [talk to me] 19:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Schminnte thank you!
  1. I reverted my change
  2. I changed Wikipedia:PageCuration script to point to User:Schminnte/PageCuration
  3. (unrelated) I deleted An alternative [[User:Lourdes/SpecialNewPages|script]] is available for the same. all together, as that script is unmaintained now.
Miss anything? — xaosflux Talk 19:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Don't think so, thanks for everything! Schminnte [talk to me] 20:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Help[edit]

Hello!

Any idea what could be going wrong in here? It shows a file broken link but not sure where that is coming from. I've spent like 6 hours checking everything but still have no clue. - Klein Muçi (talk) 22:08, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Better now? I null edited the dependent templates to force them to recalculate. Way too much dynamic loading going on in my opinion. — xaosflux Talk 22:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah... So nothing was wrong per se... Thank you!
Yeah... I know what you mean. I've tried making things as easy/automatic as I've can. Everything comes with a drawback. If things get heavy I'll start changing them back. Thank you again! — Klein Muçi (talk) 23:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please take a look at the link above again and our main page and tell me what is going on with the border and padding? Is this a still a problem arising from the aforementioned dynamic loading? Is the specific chosen photo problematic? It's been 2 days now trying to solve it, ever since you fixed the problem with the broken link, but nothing seems to work.
This is the CSS page: Link
The photo is supposed to have an inline border and align with the text body with a small padding in-between. — Klein Muçi (talk) 11:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not exactly sure and don't have time to delve in to all of it. First thing to check, it looks like some of that image is getting styles with multiple template style loads on the template, but only one of those is on the main page (is what you are missing in: Stampa:Artikulli i javës/styles.css ?) — xaosflux Talk 12:00, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That works in unifying the looks but all sections have their own CSS page. Do they all need to be included in the Main Page? I thought it was enough to include it on the local template page and if you transcluded it, it would come with the associated styles as well. Am I wrong in that assumption? — Klein Muçi (talk) 12:09, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently with the other cases the inclusion doesn't make a difference but with that template it does. Hmm... — Klein Muçi (talk) 12:12, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like on the template, you have the templatestyles in the "noinclude" section, so they would not be used when the template is called. — xaosflux Talk 12:17, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why would I do that... :'( You are right. That solved the problem. Now I just need to give them the correct styling I suppose. Thank you very much! — Klein Muçi (talk) 12:24, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request[edit]

I've started a revamp of Wikipedia:Tools/Optimum tool set.

Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.

Thank you.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   06:40, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist messages[edit]

So, rather than go ahead and kill even more electrons on MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages with the clearly-excessive 37-step repro I have written up,† is there any way I can convince you to just turn on the gadget (if you have it off), reload your watchlist, and type mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages') into a console? Not getting 596 in the results anymore despite having dismissed the RFA message is 95% of the proof, and I suppose I could demonstrate the rest over on testwiki if it's kosher to hand out interface-admin there. —Cryptic 00:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

†Too many of the steps started to look like
  • "click on 'skip this survey' and dismiss the popup and all the other not-very-welcoming stuff we inflict on new users", and
  • "stop to chat with the userspace police, who've shown up on your usertalk to complain that the account name you picked is illegal despite you only existing for half an hour, you've never made an edit, and WP:USERNAME says nothing of the sort", and especially
  • "you might want to stop now, unless you want to find out what happens when the zero-edit account you've just granted extended-confirmed with your admin goes ahead and disrupts RFA and everybody's watchlist to prove this point".
Regarding that test, same result before and after disabling the notice:
:>mw.storage.get('hidewatchlistmessages')
:<null
However I have no recollection of what I may or may not have recently dismissed. It does sound like the 'empty the storage' may be running when it shouldn't, and I pinged in the last script developer who had requested changes to the conversation on the wl talk page. — xaosflux Talk 10:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's a fallback in the gadget js, mw.storage.session.get('hidewatchlistmessages'), that's used if mw.storage.get(...) fails. I had thought it was intended for old versions of MediaWiki, or perhaps minority or mobile browsers - both of the ones I tested with use mw.storage; I didn't try on mobile - but it's documented to last only the lifetime of the open browser tab. Try that?
Anyway, the gadget is mostly doing what it says it should do: it removes old cookie-ids that are no longer referenced. (It fails to do that if there are no hidden or hideable messages at all, so it forever stores the last one to expire, maybe intentionally, maybe not; in practice, there's always another watchlist message between RFAs.) The problem is the way we've been abusing it with the RFA message, which removes itself entirely - not just makes itself invisible - when there are no RFAs, and updates itself immediately when the number of RFAs changes. Even if nobody looks at their watchlist or is irritated enough to complain about it between when a new RFA starts and when the cookie is manually updated, it's still going to say "there are 2 rfas open" as soon as a second one opens to people who haven't dismissed the message yet, no matter that we wait a half a day to bump the number on Mediawiki:Watchlist-messages a second time. —Cryptic 15:50, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like the fix needs to be to not purge the old values, waiting for the response from the last script writer that I expect is related to that. As far as the edge case of:
  1. There is a visible RFA that has a new cookie
  2. You don't dismiss it
  3. A second simultaneous RFA opens saying "there are n RFA's"
  4. You dismiss it during the window before its cookie gets incremented by an admin
  5. The RFA cookie gets incremented
  6. The WLN shows
I don't think that alone is going to get solved while being able to maintain some of the automation; but it is quite a small edge case.
— xaosflux Talk 16:15, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't particularly concerned about this case, no, other than that some of the options for dealing with my complaint would also fix that. We're not really saving much effort from the automation anyway since we're still manually updating the cookie numbers. I'd be happy to take over maintenance of the rfa messages if we went to an more-manual method, btw, so this isn't entirely a "This doesn't working exactly how I want! You, over there, do more unpaid labor for me!" complaint.
Documentation for mw.storage warns that the space is limited - albeit in the context of old keys, I don't know if it also applies to their values - so I don't know whether leaving all the values in there forever is wise. Not a webdev. —Cryptic 16:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agree, also think there is something else going on here - I still haven't been able to replicate the actual problem even if I can replicate some of the signals. — xaosflux Talk 17:44, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Bug?[edit]

If you use {{Special:NewPages|namespace=0|limit=1}} you get this result:

If you inspect its classes you'll see that the talk and contribute links are inside a single class called "mw-usertoollinks" but article history and edit are not. The parentheses, space and pipe characters are plain text, outside of the classes themselves. Therefore, if you decide to hide them, like I tried here, you'll get left with those characters with no way to target them (JS aside). Is this considered a bug? Can I talk with someone for this to be changed? I can of course just open a phab ticket but not sure how to report the problem in a clear way without using live examples like I did here. - Klein Muçi (talk) 12:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi this does not appear to be a bug, just something that doesn't exist. It appears to be the mediawiki default behavior as well. You can open a feature request at phabricator. Leave out anything superfluous (such as "if you use x in a transclusion" - as this happens on the native output as well). Your request would be something like
  • Story: I want to be able to target the group of page tool links on Special:NewPages with css to style them differently.
    • Then as a comment, perhaps a suggestion to "add a span element with a unique class to the output of Special:NewPages between the '.a with class mw-newpages-pagename' and '.span with class mw-newpages-length'".
— xaosflux Talk 14:35, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • In the Vector 2022 skin, the default font-size of a number of navigational elements (tagline, tools menu, navigational links, and more) has been increased slightly to match the font size used in page content. [6]

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  • Last week, there was a problem displaying some recent edits on a few wikis, for 1-6 hours. The edits were saved but not immediately shown. This was due to a database problem. [7]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 November. It will be on all wikis from 9 November (calendar).
  • The Growth team will reassign newcomers from former mentors to the currently active mentors. They have also changed the notification language to be more user-friendly. [8][9]

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Inform before blocking, explain about blocking, guide to avoid blocking.[edit]

No clue what this ip wanted, they got blocked elsewise

I invite this page owner to discuss some important isuues to make every moment,user and effort productive and copetative for overall well being of everyone and everything who are part of Wikipedia in any manner. Kindly pay attention and free your time to be with me for a while Mister/Miss/Misses XOASFLUX. Don't you dare to miss it once you did to mess it. Come and start. I am here only. Bring some operations manual given to you for performing adminship along.22:17, 6 November 2023 (UTC) 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 22:17, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why you are misusing your admin powers to take other admins blocking legacy forward? I had appreciated you by calling you a helpful admin. I praised you while talking to my friend user. You can ask to verify. My friend is not given adminship yet otherwise I wouldn't be facing these difficulty. Read above message and join me as soon as possible. Call your boss and take special permission to discuss with me you find less time for it. Apply a sick leave, accident leave or marriage leave, whatever reason doesn't matter false , give and free yourself for this. I am awaiting Mr/Ms/Mrs XOASFLUX. 📢2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 22:30, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, you will need to be more specific, that address has never been blocked. — xaosflux Talk 23:20, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What does Wikipedia want me do?2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 00:53, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What does Wikipedia want me do? Why did you delete my content that I wrote yesterday night ? Why my mobile phone's more than 50 screenshots are having you proving you blocked me? 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 00:59, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You better know who needs to be more specific, me or Wikipedia? I would suggest you not to assume who was what instead give my questions answer. Be honest. I don't care if you are going to murder me but do inform . I can lose myself to honest people. I neither can give nor take a second if you are a cheater/lier/dishonest/cruel/irresponsible/undiciplined. Egnore bad English not me I am more bad than it.2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 01:12, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea what you are talking about. If you have a question about a block I made, see the list of them here, be specific as to exactly which block you are asking about. Note, I haven't blocked anyone here on the English Wikipedia in almost 2 months. — xaosflux Talk 02:29, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Send your WhatsApp number lier. I'm sending you all photos. Instead of accepting what you did you are protecting yourself. I don't like this nature. I never hide if I do wrong. I don't care if people hate me. I am not a people pleaser. What specific?? Wikipedia needs to be specific, I don't. Mind it and eat your mind in regret. !! God sees all. I trust him. 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 02:46, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fight with me whole day. I challenge you for full time one to one combat. Later you can take all your gangs with you to counter me like Ganiac, Fr33man, Daniel, LS35 and many more with your entire brigade and I alon this side. I never forget name and face. I never forget what wrong I did to someone and what wrong someone did to me. Remember I am not who compromise or surrender without knowing the truth. I win or I lose I don't care but I do care what I am yet to know inspite of losing everything in attempts of knowing it. Do you have any idea how critial my situation was that became again a Suicidal state against I was already fighting a battle without medicine and doctor. I lost my students. I shut my classroom that I had started after lock down breakdown of almost 3 years. My half family members was in different hospitals. I was in Emergency of another hospital. Rest were permanent paitent of something already. Do you want proof? I can send all.I always worshipped knowledge and Wikipedia broke me like no other. I was about to hang this time for final successful result. Could it be worse?? 😭😭😭 Wikipedia blocked me in emails long ago. Who does this ?? No one today replies also except very few master pieces who says day's name if you ask them vegetable name !! How many emails for help which are not received yet ?? Any idea ??? I again gave Wikipedia money in toughest time. No confirmation no reply of anything. I am in war with thier email donor company Zendesk, you know? And many more, much more. You are admin but butcher in nature. Why this death plan wasn't in Wikipedia's work culture ?? I can bet thousands of innocent users would have killed themselves just because of this harrasment treat of Wikipedia. Remember not anyone is me. Why Wikipedia can't feel the pain, loneliness, guilt feel and hundreds of self harming acts of a victim in such case ?? Will Wikipedia give me students, books to write for thousands if school teachers and bear my all medical expenses?? Why this terror. Doesn't anyone from Wikipedia ever cry over sorrows??😭😭😭 My Wikipedia friend user is not allowed to reply me and I am told that user I am bad !! Already I don't have any friend in life. Where should I go then ?? Heaven or hell? Will Wikipedia buy poison for me to travel there?? Block me from commenting , it will be good for Wikipedia and you and every other admins in your gang. Not just book writing , classroom, government project I lost film writing work too. Who works in such Suicidal state ?? Others may be working but I can't. I am not a super man. I need positive and happy mind to perform anything. I would love to share each proofs what I'm telling about. 😭😭😭 2409:4081:AC14:BD4E:0:0:CC4A:7309 (talk) 02:39, 7 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

added 0xDeadbeef
readded Tamzin
removed Dennis Brown

Interface administrator changes

added Pppery
removed

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

Arbitration

  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
  • Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
  • Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
  • Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
  • Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
  • Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
  • An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

Miscellaneous

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Gadget tags for sister projects[edit]

Howdy. I noticed that a couple years back we got some new tags for the gadgets, like "default", "sister", etc. I was wondering if there were any relevant discussions about the introduction of those tags that I could look at for some of the reasoning behind introducing them? Thank you. Enterprisey (talk!) 22:32, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Enterprisey not a lot, there is some discussion in phab:T65598 about the (E) marking - and I sort of took that upon myself to start doing something to try to mitigate some of those concerns. The (D) default one is half-implemented in software now (it displays in Special:Gadgets but not yet in Special:Preferences (phab:T51501 may one day implement that). The S, and U were things I came up with mostly in isolation to help our users make better risk decisions for themselves. I'm wide open to any feedback, additional improvements or workshopping overhauls if you would like. — xaosflux Talk 23:41, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Problems

  • Last week, users who previously visited Meta-Wiki or Wikimedia Commons and then became logged out on those wikis could not log in again. The problem is now resolved. [14]
  • Last week, some pop-up dialogs and menus were shown with the wrong font size. The problem is now resolved. [15]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 November. It will be on all wikis from 16 November (calendar).

Future changes

  • Reference Previews are coming to many wikis as a default feature. They are popups for references, similar to the PagePreviews feature. You can opt out of seeing them. If you are using the gadgets Reference Tooltips or Navigation Popups, you won’t see Reference Previews. Deployment is planned for November 22, 2023.
  • Canary (also known as heartbeat) events will be produced into Wikimedia event streams from December 11. Streams users are advised to filter out these events, by discarding all events where meta.domain == "canary". Updates to Pywikibot or wikimedia-streams will discard these events by default. [16]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox template[edit]

Hello, Xaosflux!

Can you please help me understand and adapt a specific part of {{Sandbox heading}}? I just want to know how the button to "reset the sandbox" works. What are those pages and those edit id numbers? What exactly would I need to put for my homewiki if we are using this page as a sandbox: sq:WP:Livadhi ? - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi those are just some "know good versions" from the history of those various sandboxes, e.g: Special:Permalink/1152694269 is a known good version of Wikipedia talk:Sandbox. — xaosflux Talk 13:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So to adapt it for my homewiki I just set it to a known good old version of our page? What exactly happens with those versions? Are they edited? Restored? What happens when you edit an old version of a page as I've never tried that before. Just asking so I don't end up ruining page histories in general. — Klein Muçi (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It makes a link with the &oldid parameter, which is the same if you go to a page, go to the history, and open an old version. — xaosflux Talk 13:56, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! — Klein Muçi (talk) 14:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Adding template[edit]

Hello @Xaosflux I have seen that you have interface-admin right here so I am confirmed that you have some knowledge of CSS or JavaScript so can you help adding protected page template to Public Test Wiki. Nexovia (talk) 12:44, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

testwiki:Template:Pp already exists. Keep in mind, it is just for testing things we don't actually mark up every protected page with it there. — xaosflux Talk 13:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks :)[edit]

Hi

Just wanted to say thanks very much for making me the template on Meta, the request got archived just after you replied so couldn't reply there.

Thanks again

John Cummings (talk) 13:53, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hope it works out for you! — xaosflux Talk 13:56, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail![edit]

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@Asparagusus  Done you may want to follow up with that editor on copyvios, COI, and USERNAME issues. — xaosflux Talk 14:18, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, thanks! :) —asparagusus (interaction) sprouts! 14:19, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week. [17][18]
  • Starting on Wednesday, a new set of Wikipedias will get "Add a link" (Quechua Wikipedia, Romansh Wikipedia, Romani Wikipedia, Rundi Wikipedia, Aromanian Wikipedia, Tarandíne Wikipedia, Rusyn Wikipedia, Kinyarwanda Wikipedia, Sanskrit Wikipedia, Sakha Wikipedia, Santali Wikipedia, Sardinian Wikipedia, Sicilian Wikipedia, Scots Wikipedia, Sindhi Wikipedia, Northern Sami Wikipedia, Sango Wikipedia, Serbo-Croatian Wikipedia, Sinhala Wikipedia, Slovak Wikipedia, Slovenian Wikipedia, Samoan Wikipedia, Somali Wikipedia, Albanian Wikipedia, Serbian Wikipedia, Sranan Tongo Wikipedia, Swati Wikipedia, Southern Sotho Wikipedia, Saterland Frisian Wikipedia, Sundanese Wikipedia, Silesian Wikipedia, Tamil Wikipedia, Tulu Wikipedia, Telugu Wikipedia, Tetum Wikipedia, Tajik Wikipedia, Thai Wikipedia, Turkmen Wikipedia, Tagalog Wikipedia, Tswana Wikipedia, Tongan Wikipedia, Tok Pisin Wikipedia, Turkish Wikipedia, Tsonga Wikipedia, Tatar Wikipedia, Twi Wikipedia, Tahitian Wikipedia, Tuvinian Wikipedia, Udmurt Wikipedia, Uyghur Wikipedia, Uzbek Wikipedia, Venda Wikipedia, Venetian Wikipedia, Veps Wikipedia, West Flemish Wikipedia, Volapük Wikipedia). This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to more Wikipedias. The communities can configure how this feature works locally. [19][20][21]
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Assistance ?[edit]

I tried to create a candidacy statement, and I think that my candidacy statement is in some sort of limbo. Do I need to start over, or is there somewhere that I can pick up the pieces and continue the process in the next eight hours? Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon thank you for self-nominating. Your statement was created and is located here: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023/Candidates/Robert McClenon/Statement; the minimum needed to complete the nomination is to transclude it to the candidates page. Edit this section of this page: Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2023/Candidates#Standing_candidates and insert your candidate page along with the others. There may be some other pages to clean up (talk pages, the questions page, etc - but those can be cleaned up after). — xaosflux Talk 16:50, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I didn't know that I was allowed to do that. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're in; any other cleanups someone else may handle. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 18:45, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, the coordinators can assist and getting all the other pages set up. Thanks for applying. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 19:55, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request for deletion[edit]

Dear Xaosflux, Hello, I'm going to accept an draft submission Draft:Environmental issues in Myanmar but I saw this topic is already exist in article namespace and redirect to Myanmar, so, I request to you please delete Environmental issues in Myanmar and I will be able to accept this submission only after this page is deletion, I'm waiting for deletion of this page under WP:G6. ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Aviram7 not sure why you looked for me on this one, but I've gone ahead and deleted Environmental issues in Myanmar under the CSD. — xaosflux Talk 14:20, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Xaosflux, Thanks for about that. :) ~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:57, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 29 November. It will be on all wikis from 30 November (calendar). There is no new MediaWiki version next week. [23][24]
  • MediaWiki's JavaScript system will now allow async/await syntax in gadgets and user scripts. Gadget authors should remember that users' browsers may not support it, so it should be used appropriately. [25]
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ArbCom 2023 Elections voter message[edit]

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  • The spacing between paragraphs on Vector 2022 has been changed from 7px to 14px to match the size of the text. This will make it easier to distinguish paragraphs from sentences. [26]
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MediaWiki message delivery 23:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of Template:CatAutoTOC[edit]

I would like to clarify Special:Diff/1188777839 – removal of protection from Template:CatAutoTOC. Per transclusion counter, it has more than half a million transclusions. It seems that the removal of protection was done by accident. Perhaps it was supposed to be upgraded from template protection (it was protected since 2019) to full protection? —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Andrybak thank you for your vigilance. I had indeed intended to move that the other way (to FP); this should now be resolved. — xaosflux Talk 21:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – December 2023[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

Guideline and policy news

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
  • The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
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Recent changes

  • On Wikimedia Commons, there are some minor user-interface improvements for the "choosing own vs not own work" step in the UploadWizard. This is part of the Structured Content team's project of improving UploadWizard on Commons. [31][32]

Problems

  • There was a problem showing the Newcomer homepage feature with the "impact module" and their page-view graphs, for a few days in early December. This has now been fixed. [33][34]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 December. It will be on all wikis from 14 December (calendar). [35][36]

Future changes

  • The 2023 Developer Satisfaction Survey is seeking the opinions of the Wikimedia developer community. Please take the survey if you have any role in developing software for the Wikimedia ecosystem. The survey is open until 5 January 2024, and has an associated privacy statement.

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Nomination of Santa Claus machine for deletion[edit]

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  • The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 8 January 2024 because of the holidays.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 December. It will be on all wikis from 21 December (calendar). There is no new MediaWiki version next week. [37][38]
  • Starting December 18, it won't be possible to activate Structured Discussions on a user's own talk page using the Beta feature. The Beta feature option remains available for users who want to deactivate Structured Discussions. This is part of Structured Discussions' deprecation work. [39]
  • There will be full support for redirects in the Module namespace. The "Move Page" feature will leave an appropriate redirect behind, and such redirects will be appropriately recognized by the software (e.g. hidden from Special:UnconnectedPages). There will also be support for manual redirects. [40]

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Seasons Greetings![edit]

Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:09, 18 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays, ya filthy animal.[edit]

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2024!

Hello Xaosflux, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024.
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A solstice greeting[edit]

❄️ Happy holidays! ❄️

Hi Xaosflux! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. Looking forward to collaborating more on interface work in the coming year! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!
Cheers,
{{u|Sdkb}} talk
Solstice Celebration for Xaosflux, 2023, DALL·E 3. (View full series) Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies.
Solstice Celebration for Xaosflux, 2023, DALL·E 3.
Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies.

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badge[edit]

Thanks for replying, but the page you recommend:: (https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org) is the very one I I get when I click login. And I've never prohibited scripts etc. John Wheater (talk) 15:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@JohnWheater would you please contact TWL people directly via: wikipedialibrary@wikimedia.org. Thank you, — xaosflux Talk 15:11, 28 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Thank you so much for all your work coordinating the elections. It couldn’t have happened without you. From helping with the guide to posting the final results, you did a great job running a smooth election. Thanks! - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:55, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hidden ToC dis-appeares on it's own during scrolling[edit]

[[41]]

Sorry, a little late.

With "Zebra 1" the scrolling is OK, i.e. I can scroll down to the bottom.

Steue (talk) 06:02, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Steue thanks for the update, this should have been rolled out for the fix without having to use the Zebra feature parameter now as well. — xaosflux Talk 11:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you![edit]

The Teamwork Barnstar
Thanks for all your work on the election! -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas![edit]

~~~ Merry Christmas! ~~~
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Happy New Year 2024![edit]

Happy New Year!
Hello Xaosflux:


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Administrators' newsletter – January 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Arbitration

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Happy New Year, Xaosflux![edit]

Happy New Year!

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Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Tech News: 2024-02[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • mediawiki2latex is a tool that converts wiki content into the formats of LaTeX, PDF, ODT, and EPUB. The code now runs many times faster due to recent improvements. There is also an optional Docker container you can install on your local machine.
  • The way that Random pages are selected has been updated. This will slowly reduce the problem of some pages having a lower chance of appearing. [42]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 January. It will be on all wikis from 11 January (calendar). [43][44]

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Transfer of user's right[edit]

Citing you (from here) that "There is no technical mechanism to "transfer" access from one account to another. Users with the ability to manage permissions may technically add and remove permissions groups from accounts individually. ..." That's what transfer means to my mind when submitting the question and the possibility of it was what I meant to ask. Thanks for ensuring that this is possible.
Moreover, I asked about that on Village pump (policy) because I guessed it's part of Wikipedia policy regarding the transfer possibility. It's not like I was asking if there's a magical button to enable instant transfer that could make me asking about this (possibility of right transfer) on Village pump (Technical) or Village pump (Idea lab). Natsuikomin (talk) 22:12, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 10 January 2024[edit]

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Response about my talk page[edit]

Hey, yeah sorry my talk page is large. I've been waiting on the mediawiki team working on enhancing talk page experience to roll out automated page management which preserved linking to the topic headers. Possibly that is supported now? Seeing now that my talk page can't be saved, I wouldn't mind the help. I still think this should be solved by the Mediawiki configuration and not by ad-hoc user scripts and bots as this is a core function of communication and linking should be preserved. See my previous note User talk:Wolfgang8741#Archiving though I'm not opposed to getting some help. I don't have time at the moment to move some of the automated newsletter posts like "Wikidata weekly summary #430" and " This Month in GLAM: September 2020" to their own subpages and probably the largest offenders for space. I don't link to those posts typically, but do reference them and do link to other conversation on and off wiki. I just don't remember where those newsletters are configured to fix where they post and would love if they linked back to manage that so users can find it easier. Sorry for not managing this, I was hoping it would be fixed by the system updating to something that didn't break links and broadly implement pagination. Wolfgang8741 says: If not you, then who? (talk) 19:52, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Wolfgang8741 it happens, and it isn't a huge deal. I agree that scripts and bots can be problematic in this matter! I can give your page a try to just get it easily usable in the short-term with a one-time archive (and if you don't like it just revert we are a wiki after all! Technically the mass-message newsletters reveal their list, but it is in the form of a hidden comment on the page source (e.g. that one is here). Hope you don't think I'm singling you out here, someone linked your page in an example of very large pages in another discussion and I thought you could use some help. Things are certainly easier if editors can just worry about making the encyclopedia better and not this technical stuff! — xaosflux Talk 20:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-03[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. [45]
  • Gadgets and personal user scripts may now use JavaScript syntax introduced in ES6 (also known as "ES2015") and ES7 ("ES2016"). MediaWiki validates the source code to protect other site functionality from syntax errors, and to ensure scripts are valid in all supported browsers. Previously, Gadgets could use the requiresES6 option. This option is no longer needed and will be removed in the future. [46]
  • Bot passwords and owner-only OAuth consumers can now be restricted to allow editing only specific pages. [47]
  • You can now thank edits made by bots. [48]
  • An update on the status of the Community Wishlist Survey for 2024 has been published. Please read and give your feedback.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 January. It will be on all wikis from 18 January (calendar). [49][50]
  • Starting on January 17, it will not be possible to login to Wikimedia wikis from some specific old versions of the Chrome browser (versions 51–66, released between 2016 and 2018). Additionally, users of iOS 12, or Safari on Mac OS 10.14, may need to login to each wiki separately. [51]
  • The jquery.cookie module was deprecated and replaced with the mediawiki.cookie module last year. A script has now been run to replace any remaining uses, and this week the temporary alias will be removed. [52]

Future changes

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Tech News: 2024-04[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • A bug in UploadWizard prevented linking to the userpage of the uploader when uploading. It has now been fixed. [53]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 January. It will be on all wikis from 25 January (calendar). [54][55]

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Notification: Feedback request service is down[edit]

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Tech News: 2024-05[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Starting Monday January 29, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they are looking for, even if this comment was moved elsewhere. This will affect all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. You can read more about this change on Diff or on Mediawiki.org. [56]
  • There are some improvements to the CAPTCHA to make it harder for spam bots and scripts to bypass it. If you have feedback on this change, please comment on the task. Staff are monitoring metrics related to the CAPTCHA, as well as secondary metrics such as account creations and edit counts.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 January. It will be on all wikis from 1 February (calendar). [57][58]
  • On February 1, a link will be added to the "Tools" menu to download a QR code that links to the page you are viewing. There will also be a new Special:QrCode page to create QR codes for any Wikimedia URL. This addresses the #19 most-voted wish from the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey. [59]
  • Gadgets which only work in some skins have sometimes used the targets option to limit where you can use them. This will stop working this week. You should use the skins option instead. [60]

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You've got mail![edit]

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I didn't get an email, however if this is in reference to ticket:2024012510010752 - it is open and being discussed still. — xaosflux Talk 16:59, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 31 January 2024[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – February 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

CheckUser changes

removed Wugapodes

Interface administrator changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

  • An RfC about increasing the inactivity requirement for Interface administrators is open for feedback.

Technical news

  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

Arbitration

  • Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
  • Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SWMT[edit]

Dear Xaosflux, Hi and can you add my alternative account's name on SWMT Whitelist on per my request.😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:25, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That seems fine, but I don't normally deal with that - can you link me to the whitelist page you are referencing? — xaosflux Talk 14:30, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Xaosflux, thanks for reply, I've sending you an screenshort of SWMT whitelist My this account is added by mahler on my request before 1 year. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you are asking. Is there a page you want me to edit? If so, please provide a link. — xaosflux Talk 14:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Xaosflux,I'm talking about the whitelist that m:Small Wiki Monitoring Team looks like, which can only be put on the list by stewards, Bureucrats or administrators, you see at the top a picture of a Small Wiki Monitoring Team I see, I understand by giving you an example-On whitelist added by loftyabyss: No reason reason. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 14:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aviram7 if you don't give me a link to list you want me to edit, I can't do anything for you. If you don't know this, please follow up at meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team. — xaosflux Talk 15:11, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I'm ready to following you as you on meta:Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team. 😊~~ αvírαm|(tαlk) 15:20, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AN/I report[edit]

Hi, User:GoutComplex has been reported at AN/I here and a month ago here, but neither the user or any admin have responded. I think that the user's continuing use of poor sources is a problem and that they should be encouraged to respond to the advice on User talk:GoutComplex. I have added some diffs to the latest report. Do you agree or am I expecting too much from them? I posted here because you were on the list of recently active admins. TSventon (talk) 15:01, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TSventon I'm not familiar with this issue and don't have time to work on it now. Other patrolling admins at ANI will check on it for you. — xaosflux Talk 15:12, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I fear that patrolling admins at AN/I have already indicated by their silence that they do not see a major problem. On the other hand, GoutComplex joined the AN/I discussion shortly after I mentioned them on your talk page. TSventon (talk) 15:59, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-06[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. If you hear of any problems relating to mobile history usage please point them to the phabricator task.
  • On most wikis, admins can now block users from making specific actions. These actions are: uploading files, creating new pages, moving (renaming) pages, and sending thanks. The goal of this feature is to allow admins to apply blocks that are adequate to the blocked users' activity. Learn more about "action blocks". [61][62]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 February. It will be on all wikis from 8 February (calendar). [63][64]
  • Talk pages permalinks that included diacritics and non-Latin script were malfunctioning. This issue is fixed. [65]

Future changes

  • 24 Wikipedias with Reference Tooltips as a default gadget are encouraged to remove that default flag. This would make Reference Previews the new default for reference popups, leading to a more consistent experience across wikis. For 46 Wikipedias with less than 4 interface admins, the change is already scheduled for mid-February, unless there are concerns. The older Reference Tooltips gadget will still remain usable and will override this feature, if it is available on your wiki and you have enabled it in your settings. [66][67]

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CSS help - section transclusion[edit]

Hey Xaos! Can you help me with something UI related?

In our Albanian village pump we have these "windows", called "Dritare", which you can check for yourself here, just below the main header. The idea is to have our VP act as a central hub where admins/experienced users can quickly check the main pages of our community through the so-called "windows" and interact with them to solve any issues without having to leave the page. This is achieved through section transclusion and it works rather fine on its own. Been using it for quite some months now. I was recently thinking to enhance it by introducing a new feature: "Non-empty" windows will have red backgrounds to indicate their backlog status and hopefully draw the attention of interested volunteers. Is there a way you think this can be achieved using only CSS? The problem lies on the "non-empty" part because they're never empty per se, having HTML tags and Mediawiki templates in them. I mean "non-empty" as in "not having any sections/issues open". I'm not sure how to handle targeting in this case or if it is even possible. Maybe that's not achievable using only CSS? - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:55, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Klein Muçi sorry, can't think of a pure CSS route for that. Also, it looks like you are really transcluding those entire page contents? (e.g. w:sq:Wikipedia:Administrata/Votimet/Kandidatura për administratorë/Kandidatura nga të tjerë not just a section of the page) - so page transclusion may be smoother then section tranclusion (which is known to be buggy). As you have these collapsed, I'm assuming you actually want to color the collapsed titles in w:sq:Wikipedia:Kuvendi/Hyrja? (Because otherwise the user still would have to bother expanding it to see the 'red' - and at that point they would already be seeing the 'empty'. So that means you'd be stuck with some javascript - to check for the presence of some sub.sub element, then have it change the class of the area to recolor. Short answer: CSS can't do complex conditionals. Potential workaround could be procedural, "when clearing this page, uncomment the {{empty}} line" - which could emmit something. — xaosflux Talk 13:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason I went with sections instead of pages is because in that page you linked (admin-related one) the sections are supposed to always be there and that wouldn't show the usual "empty appearance" in the window while also showing the section titles forever in the VP's TOC. And yes, I want the background of the collapsed titles to be red. That's what I thought. Is there a way to have page-related JS instead of utilizing the common.js page? Similar to using page/styles.css for CSS styling? - Klein Muçi (talk) 13:51, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet. But if the target for who needs to see that color change is very low, you could use an opt-in gadget. — xaosflux Talk 14:14, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, interesting idea. Hadn't thought of that approach. Well, I guess that answers all my questions. Just one more thing out of personal curiosity: You say "not yet". Am I to understand there are on-going Phab requests about this? Or was it just in the general sense? - Klein Muçi (talk) 14:19, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
phab:T241524 is the closest. If you don't mind a button click, you could make a dashboard that you click a load button on the top of, and it can call a gadget with the load (sort of how this page works: WP:MYIP). — xaosflux Talk 14:30, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... This goes a bit heavily on the gadget element. I was hoping for a more direct approach towards scripts in general. While one might argue that there isn't any difference between the two words, I believe in practice there is. For example, some time ago I was forced to use JS to solve an issue on our main page (removing some pipes and parentheses, we've talked about it together too). It would seem a bit weird to call this script "a gadget" and have it stand aside on the Mediawiki NS. It's just a script used to modify a single accompanying page. Anyway, this is just tangentially related to the topic's discussion.
Thank you for your suggestion! Unfortunately, knowing my community, any form of interaction diminishes the chance for help volunteering. The red background thing was thought precisely after the windows themselves still weren't enough to solve some issues which have been left open for years now. Nonetheless thank you for your help! — Klein Muçi (talk) 19:52, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ITN recognition for Kelvin Kiptum[edit]

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The Signpost: 13 February 2024[edit]

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Tech News: 2024-07[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The WDQS Graph Split experiment is working and loaded onto 3 test servers. The team in charge is testing the split's impact and requires feedback from WDQS users through the UI or programmatically in different channels. [68][69][70] Users' feedback will validate the impact of various use cases and workflows around the Wikidata Query service. [71][72]

Problems

  • There was a bug that affected the appearance of visited links when using mobile device to access wiki sites. It made the links appear black; this issue is fixed.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 February. It will be on all wikis from 15 February (calendar). [73][74]
  • As work continues on the grid engine deprecation,[75] tools on the grid engine will be stopped starting on February 14th, 2024. If you have tools actively migrating you can ask for an extension so they are not stopped. [76]

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Category:Spree killers has been nominated for merging[edit]

Category:Spree killers has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. PARAKANYAA (talk) 15:33, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-08[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • If you have the "Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed" option enabled, edits by bot accounts no longer trigger notification emails. Previously, only minor edits would not trigger the notification emails. [77]
  • There are changes to how user and site scripts load for Vector 2022 on specific wikis. The changes impacted the following Wikis: all projects with Vector legacy as the default skin, Wikivoyage, and Wikibooks. Other wikis will be affected over the course of the next three months. Gadgets are not impacted. If you have been affected or want to minimize the impact on your project, see this ticket. Please coordinate and take action proactively.
  • Newly auto-created accounts (the accounts you get when you visit a new wiki) now have the same local notification preferences as users who freshly register on that wiki. It is effected in four notification types listed in the task's description.
  • The maximum file size when using Upload Wizard is now 5 GiB. [78]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 February. It will be on all wikis from 22 February (calendar). [79][80]
  • Selected tools on the grid engine have been stopped as we prepare to shut down the grid on March 14th, 2024. The tool's code and data have not been deleted. If you are a maintainer and you want your tool re-enabled reach out to the team. Only tools that have asked for extension are still running on the grid.
  • The CSS filter property can now be used in HTML style attributes in wikitext. [81]

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Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment[edit]

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Hey there! Could you help me?[edit]

I have made a phylogeny tree for Jaklapallisaurus but I'm facing a couple problems:

1) I've tried SO HARD lol to get the basal most genus to be bagualosaurus but it doesn't show up :/

2) "Massopoda" should be sister to unaysauridae + plateosauridae BUT it doesn't wanna budge :/ it's right now sister to unaysauridae only DNB XD (talk) 14:31, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@DNB XD I'm not very familiar with that template, however you need to avoid duplicating template variable values inside each template call (the x=y part). For example, you have {{clade}} being used, but have multiple "1=x" on the same entry. — xaosflux Talk 14:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thank you! DNB XD (talk) 02:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-09[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The mobile visual editor is now the default editor for users who never edited before, at a small group of wikis. Research shows that users using this editor are slightly more successful publishing the edits they started, and slightly less successful publishing non-reverted edits. Users who defined the wikitext editor as their default on desktop will get the wikitext editor on mobile for their first edit on mobile as well. [82]
  • The mw.config value wgGlobalGroups now only contains groups that are active in the wiki. Scripts no longer have to check whether the group is active on the wiki via an API request. A code example of the above is: if (/globalgroupname/.test(mw.config.get("wgGlobalGroups"))). [83]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 February. It will be on all wikis from 29 February (calendar). [84][85]

Future changes

  • The right to change edit tags (changetags) will be removed from users in Wikimedia sites, keeping it by default for admins and bots only. Your community can ask to retain the old configuration on your wiki before this change happens. Please indicate in this ticket to keep it for your community before the end of March 2024.

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An early congratulations[edit]

Only one hour until the voting portion of the Steward elections end! I wanted to give you an early congratulations for the 100% keep ratio. You did a great job last year and I hope you continue with the amazing work! -- Grapefanatic (Talk) 13:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – March 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2024).

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The mobile site history pages now use the same HTML as the desktop history pages. (T353388)

Miscellaneous

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you...[edit]

...for your wonderful work :)

– DreamRimmer (talk) 16:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 2 March 2024[edit]

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Tech News: 2024-10[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The Special:Book page (as well as the associated "Create a book" functionality) provided by the old Collection extension has been removed from all Wikisource wikis, as it was broken. This does not affect the ability to download normal books, which is provided by the Wikisource extension. [86]
  • Wikitech now uses the next-generation Parsoid wikitext parser by default to generate all pages in the Talk namespace. Report any problems on the Known Issues discussion page. You can use the ParserMigration extension to control the use of Parsoid; see the ParserMigration help documentation for more details.
  • Maintenance on etherpad is completed. If you encounter any issues, please indicate in this ticket.
  • Gadgets allow interface admins to create custom features with CSS and JavaScript. The Gadget and Gadget_definition namespaces and gadgets-definition-edit user right were reserved for an experiment in 2015, but were never used. These were visible on Special:Search and Special:ListGroupRights. The unused namespaces and user rights are now removed. No pages are moved, and no changes need to be made. [87]
  • A usability improvement to the "Add a citation" in Wikipedia workflow has been made, the insert button was moved to the popup header. [88]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar). [89][90]

Future changes

  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [91]
  • The HTML markup of headings and section edit links will be changed later this year to improve accessibility. See Heading HTML changes for details. The new markup will be the same as in the new Parsoid wikitext parser. You can test your gadget or stylesheet with the new markup if you add ?useparsoid=1 to your URL (more info) or turn on Parsoid read views in your user options (more info).

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Editor experience invitation[edit]

Hi Xaosflux :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:15, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-11[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar). [92][93]
  • After consulting with various communities, the line height of the text on the Minerva skin will be increased to its previous value of 1.65. Different options for typography can also be set using the options in the menu, as needed. [94]
  • The active link color in Minerva will be changed to provide more consistency with our other platforms and best practices. [95]
  • Structured data on Commons will no longer ask whether you want to leave the page without saving. This will prevent the “information you’ve entered may not be saved” popups from appearing when no information have been entered. It will also make file pages on Commons load faster in certain cases. However, the popups will be hidden even if information has indeed been entered. If you accidentally close the page before saving the structured data you entered, that data will be lost. [96]

Future changes

  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [97][98]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:02, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFA2024 update: no longer accepting new proposals in phase I[edit]

Hey there! This is to let you know that phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship (RfA) review is now no longer accepting new proposals. Lots of proposals remain open for discussion, and the current round of review looks to be on a good track towards making significant progress towards improving RfA's structure and environment. I'd like to give my heartfelt thanks to everyone who has given us their idea for change to make RfA better, and the same to everyone who has given the necessary feedback to improve those ideas. The following proposals remain open for discussion:

  • Proposal 2, initiated by HouseBlaster, provides for the addition of a text box at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship reminding all editors of our policies and enforcement mechanisms around decorum.
  • Proposals 3 and 3b, initiated by Barkeep49 and Usedtobecool, respectively, provide for trials of discussion-only periods at RfA. The first would add three extra discussion-only days to the beginning, while the second would convert the first two days to discussion-only.
  • Proposal 5, initiated by SilkTork, provides for a trial of RfAs without threaded discussion in the voting sections.
  • Proposals 6c and 6d, initiated by BilledMammal, provide for allowing users to be selected as provisional admins for a limited time through various concrete selection criteria and smaller-scale vetting.
  • Proposal 7, initiated by Lee Vilenski, provides for the "General discussion" section being broken up with section headings.
  • Proposal 9b, initiated by Reaper Eternal, provides for the requirement that allegations of policy violation be substantiated with appropriate links to where the alleged misconduct occured.
  • Proposals 12c, 21, and 21b, initiated by City of Silver, Ritchie333, and HouseBlaster, respectively, provide for reducing the discretionary zone, which currently extends from 65% to 75%. The first would reduce it 65%–70%, the second would reduce it to 50%–66%, and the third would reduce it to 60%–70%.
  • Proposal 13, initiated by Novem Lingaue, provides for periodic, privately balloted admin elections.
  • Proposal 14, initiated by Kusma, provides for the creation of some minimum suffrage requirements to cast a vote.
  • Proposals 16 and 16c, initiated by Thebiguglyalien and Soni, respectively, provide for community-based admin desysop procedures. 16 would desysop where consensus is established in favor at the administrators' noticeboard; 16c would allow a petition to force reconfirmation.
  • Proposal 16e, initiated by BilledMammal, would extend the recall procedures of 16 to bureaucrats.
  • Proposal 17, initiated by SchroCat, provides for "on-call" admins and 'crats to monitor RfAs for decorum.
  • Proposal 18, initiated by theleekycauldron, provides for lowering the RfB target from 85% to 75%.
  • Proposal 24, initiated by SportingFlyer, provides for a more robust alternate version of the optional candidate poll.
  • Proposal 25, initiated by Femke, provides for the requirement that nominees be extended-confirmed in addition to their nominators.
  • Proposal 27, initiated by WereSpielChequers, provides for the creation of a training course for admin hopefuls, as well as periodic retraining to keep admins from drifting out of sync with community norms.
  • Proposal 28, initiated by HouseBlaster, tightens restrictions on multi-part questions.

To read proposals that were closed as unsuccessful, please see Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/2024 review/Phase I/Closed proposals. You are cordially invited once again to participate in the open discussions; when phase I ends, phase II will review the outcomes of trial proposals and refine the implementation details of other proposals. Another notification will be sent out when this phase begins, likely with the first successful close of a major proposal. Happy editing! theleekycauldron (talk • she/her), via:

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Remove[edit]

@Samral is a sockpuppet pls remove extendedconfirmed rights. @Xaosflux 151.135.11.200 (talk) 13:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't need to bother removing groups from blocked users. — xaosflux Talk 13:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He annoys me and other users by cursing at you via email. Can you please turn off the email sending feature? 176.218.17.226 (talk) 14:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you are not a registered user, you wouldn't be getting email from us and we can't do anything about someone sending you email directly. If a registred user is having an issue, they can post at WP:ANI. — xaosflux Talk 14:09, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't log in so my username wouldn't show up. Pls turn off email sending. He's a sockpuppet and has no place here anymore. 176.218.17.226 (talk) 14:11, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not working on this, feel free to report to ANI, a checkuser may need to validate the claim. — xaosflux Talk 14:13, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New message from ExclusiveEditor[edit]

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Tech News: 2024-12[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • The notice "Language links are at the top of the page" that appears in the Vector 2022 skin main menu has been removed now that users have learned the new location of the Language switcher. [99]
  • IP info feature displays data from Spur, an IP addresses database. Previously, the only data source for this feature was MaxMind. Now, IP info is more useful for patrollers. [100]
  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. [101][102][103]
  • Communities can now customize the default reasons for undeleting a page by creating MediaWiki:Undelete-comment-dropdown. [104]

Problems

  • RevisionSlider is an interface to interactively browse a page's history. Users in right-to-left languages reported RevisionSlider reacting wrong to mouse clicks. This should be fixed now. [105]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 March. It will be on all wikis from 21 March (calendar). [106][107]
  • All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on March 20. This is planned at 14:00 UTC. [108][109]

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MediaWiki message delivery 17:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment[edit]

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Tech News: 2024-13[edit]

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Recent changes

  • An update was made on March 18th 2024 to how various projects load site, user JavaScript and CSS in Vector 2022 skin. A checklist is provided for site admins to follow.

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar). [110][111]

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:54, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User Subpages deletion request.[edit]

Good day @Xaosflux please I would like to delete these redirect pages, some where created unintentionally. Please User:Thisasia/common.js/common.js, User:Thisasia/sandbox/common.js User:Thisasia/Status2User:Thisasia/sandbox and these sanebox doc pages, User:Thisasia/sandbox/Doc, User:Thisasia/sandbox/doc and then with User:Thisasia/StatusChanger.js Thanks very much.
Thisasia  (Talk) 01:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Thisasia looks like someone already did. — xaosflux Talk 09:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes indeed. An admin has done that few hours ago, thanks very and have a good time.
Thisasia  (Talk) 09:09, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 29 March 2024[edit]

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Hi[edit]

Hello @Xaosflux, no one is interested in my request. Could you please take a look? Lionel Cristiano? 12:41, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Lionel Cristiano someone will get to it, as you can see there are much older requests backlogged on that page right now. — xaosflux Talk 17:36, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

  • Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.
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Tech News: 2024-14[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Users of the reading accessibility beta feature will notice that the default line height for the standard and large text options has changed. [112]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar). [113][114]

Future changes

  • The Wikimedia Foundation has an annual plan. The annual plan decides what the Wikimedia Foundation will work on. You can now read the draft key results for the Product and Technology department. They are suggestions for what results the Foundation wants from big technical changes from July 2024 to June 2025. You can comment on the talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 03:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moomoo[edit]

About 4 years ago you put protection on this page as a redirect but the notes say it a was removed.. the redirect seems to be active and i was wondering if you could remove the protection? Thanks QuantWiz (talk) 18:26, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@QuantWiz I actually lowered the protection, though consider it still a vandalism target. If you have an edit request for the page, please use the talk page. Feel free to appeal at WP:RFUP. — xaosflux Talk 18:29, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the quick reply.. the talk page mentions putting a page for Moomoo the trading app in there which is what i was considering. QuantWiz (talk) 18:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@QuantWiz a good way to do that is to write the page at Draft:Moomoo then ask for it to be moved over when it is ready. — xaosflux Talk 18:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-15[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
  • A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
  • Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [115][116]
  • Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [117]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [118][119]
  • New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [120]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up from my edit request.[edit]

Could you make a similar adjustment on all of the other padlock pages? Geardona (talk to me?) 16:08, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Geardona please drop edit requests so your ask doesn't get lost. You don't have to "sandbox" them for just updating that file description - just put what you want in the ER. — xaosflux Talk 16:35, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tech News: 2024-16[edit]

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [121][122]

Changes later this week

  • The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [123][124]
  • Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [125]
  • A new variable page_last_edit_age will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [126]

Future changes

  • Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
  • Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the abuse_filter and abuse_filter_history tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [127]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Block me[edit]

Hello @Xaosflux, may you do me a favor and block me until May 10th? I have a few real-life obligations that Wikipedia is getting in the way of. Thanks! Bremps... 02:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done — xaosflux Talk 09:15, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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