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Out of Date[edit]

Just my opinion, but Hurricane Andrew should be removed because Hurricane Camille is listed as a previous anniversary this same month. If it isn't removed, it should at least be made up to date. Hurricane Katrina makes Andrew the second-costliest natural disaster now. Miss Michelle | Talk to Michelle 00:27, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Stabiae[edit]

In the SA about Mount Vesuvius, it has links to Pompei and Heraculaneum, but not Stabiae - there is a page on Stabiae...--Nunners 08:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong Date[edit]

National Heroes' Day in the Philippines is on the 31st, not the 24th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.85.59.68 (talk) 07:45, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Buddhist crisis[edit]

I don't feel the Buddhist crisis entry is appropriate today because today's item is a lead-up to an action rather than an action itself. I think perhaps the only OTD-caliber items for Vietnam from 1963 would be the assassination of Diem on Nov. 2 and perhaps the self-immolation protest on June 11. By this I mean no disrespect to the long and interesting history of that country, only that those are probably the events that have the most resonance from that particular year.

A more-appropriate OTD item for today would be the ~~Burning of Washington~~ St. Bartholomew's Day massacre. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 01:59, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this complaint related to your comments at Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries#Vietnamese items in On This Day? Again, as I said there, I am neutral on that matter. As for Burning of Washington, it is today's FP. And as for the other article, St. Bartholomew's Day massacre#Interpretations could use some cleanup. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not opposed to having Vietnamese items on OTD, I just think this was not the best choice. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 22:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP. ERRORS, please, E1ComandanteChe,should see some mail Friday 26th, went to Mass and let God see B.B. King. Good elbows and chick pea , soup, slowcook. ankles a little swollen, too much excitement for me ,you are. Rest, 1:00 a.m. SelAnniv65.92.98.29 (talk) 19:21, 24 August 2011 (UTC)24 August, 2011 3:20 p.m.[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Capture of Berwick (1482)
Omitted: Kolkata (ineligible–date not verified); Siege of Cádiz (200th anniversary; should've planned this better last year); Panic of 1857; Action T4; Cable 243
Included: Battle of the Bagradas River (49 BC) (first appearance); Gutenberg Bible (2nd appearance, last in 2007); Mexican War of Independence (5th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of the Eastern Solomons (5th appearance, last in 2010; 70th anniversary); Hurricane Andrew (3rd appearance, last in 2010; 20th anniversary)
Note: Declined to use 2010 San Fernando massacre as a possible candidate because 2011 San Fernando massacre is a better article to use.

—howcheng {chat} 09:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Independence Day of Ukraine[edit]

Independence Day of Ukraine is by now a decent (stub-)article; no need to link to List of national independence days anymore on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/August 24 (it does so now...)... Can an Administrator please fix this link; I can not do it myself.... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:45, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the link.

DDima 02:48, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Lance Armstrong (moved from July 24)
Omitted: Independence Day of Ukraine (ineligible—stub; Ukraine needs maintenance); Battle of the Bagradas River (49 BC); Gutenberg Bible; Mexican War of Independence (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of the Eastern Solomons; Hurricane Andrew
Included: Capture of Berwick (1482) (first appearance); Panic of 1857 (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Goodison Park (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Action T4 (5th appearance, last in 2011); IAU definition of planet (4th appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 06:46, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Treaty of Córdoba (blurb previously featured Mexican War of Independence, which is ineligible)
Omitted: Capture of Berwick (1482); Panic of 1857; Goodison Park; Action T4; IAU definition of planet
Included: Ukraine (rescued from Ineligible); Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 (first appearance; blurb previously featured Mount Vesuvius and is making its 8th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Burning of Washington (4th appearance, last in 2009; 200th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team (first appearance); Cable 243 (3rd appearance, last in 2011); 2004 Russian aircraft bombings (first appearance; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 09:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Job Charnock
Omitted: Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79; Burning of Washington; 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team; Cable 243; 2004 Russian aircraft bombings
Included: Sack of Rome (410) (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Gutenberg Bible (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Treaty of Córdoba (first appearance); Action T4 (6th appearance, last in 2013); Lance Armstrong (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:58, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Battle of Marj Dabiq (maintenance)
Moved to Ineligible: Job Charnock (maintenance)
Omitted: Sack of Rome (410); Gutenberg Bible; Treaty of Córdoba; Lance Armstrong
Included: Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Burning of Washington (5th appearance, last in 2014); Battle of Cer (first appearance); IAU definition of planet (5th appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: Action T4 (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:39, 23 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lord Laitinen's Suggestion[edit]

I believe that the Feast of Saint Bartholomew should be added to this section, as he was an apostle to Jesus Christ and major religious figure. ~Lord Laitinen~ (talk) 00:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, that article has a yellow-level maintenance tag ({{refimprove}}) on it, making it ineligible for inclusion. —howcheng {chat} 05:40, 24 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Hurricane Andrew (TFA for 2017-08-17)
Omitted: Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 (ineligible—maintenance); Burning of Washington; Battle of Cer; Aktion T4; IAU definition of planet
Included: Independence Day of Ukraine (rescued from Ineligible); Battle of the Bagradas (49 BC) (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Capture of Berwick (1482) (2nd appearance, last in 2013); 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Battle of the Eastern Solomons (6th appearance, last in 2012; 75th anniversary); 2004 Russian aircraft bombings (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Magnus Barefoot (first appearance); William Wilberforce (first appearance); Valentine Baker (pilot) (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 03:18, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Lance Armstrong (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible: Louis Prima (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Lochry's Defeat
Omitted: Battle of the Bagradas (49 BC); English invasion of Scotland (1482) (ineligible—maintenance); 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team; Battle of the Eastern Solomons; 2004 Russian aircraft bombings; Magnus Barefoot; William Wilberforce; Valentine Baker (pilot)
Included: Sack of Rome (410) (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Siege of Cádiz (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Goodison Park (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Aktion T4 (8th appearance, last in 2016); Hurricane Andrew (4th appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Zhang Ye (Later Shu) (first appearance); Harry Hooper (first appearance); Jean-Michel Jarre (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 20:36, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): English invasion of Scotland (1482); Louis Prima
New articles (unused): Rupert Grint; Satoshi Kon
Omitted: Sack of Rome (410); Siege of Cádiz; Goodison Park; Aktion T4; Hurricane Andrew; Zhang Ye (Later Shu); Harry Hooper; Jean-Michel Jarre
Included: Gutenberg Bible (4th appearance, last in 2015); Dutch expedition to Valdivia (first appearance); Panic of 1857 (4th appearance, last in 2013); Battle of Cer (2nd appearance, last in 2016); IAU definition of planet (6th appearance, last in 2016); Magnus Barefoot (2nd appearance, last in 2017); William Wilberforce (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Anže Kopitar (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 15:59, 26 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: English invasion of Scotland (1482) (date not certain); Goodison Park (maintenance)
Omitted: Gutenberg Bible; Panic of 1857; Battle of Cer; IAU definition of planet; Magnus Barefoot; William Wilberforce; Anže Kopitar
Included: Burning of Washington (6th appearance, last in 2016); 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team (3rd appearance, last in 2017); 2004 Russian aircraft bombings (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Ewald Christian von Kleist (2nd appearance, last in 2017; also appeared on March 7, his birthday); Antonio Stoppani (first appearance); Satoshi Kon (first appearance)
Repeats: Dutch expedition to Valdivia (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 02:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): 1929 Hebron massacre (moved from August 23)
Omitted: Dutch expedition to Valdivia; Burning of Washington; 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team; 2004 Russian aircraft bombings; William Wilberforce; Antonio Stoppani; Satoshi Kon
Included: Lochry's Defeat (first appearance); Treaty of Córdoba (2nd appearance, last in 2015); R38-class airship (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 100th anniversary; moved from August 23); Aktion T4 (9th appearance, last in 2018; 80th anniversary); IAU definition of planet (7th appearance, last in 2019); Henry VII, Holy Roman Emperor (first appearance); Zonia Baber (first appearance); Rupert Grint (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:41, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Siege of Cádiz (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible); 1929 Hebron massacre (maintenance; moved from August 23)
Omitted: Lochry's Defeat; Treaty of Córdoba; R38-class airship; Aktion T4; IAU definition of planet (ineligible—maintenance); Henry VII, Holy Roman Emperor; Zonia Baber; Rupert Grint
Included: Sack of Rome (410) (4th appearance, last in 2018); Dutch expedition to Valdivia (3rd appearance, last in 2020); 1888–89 New Zealand Native football team (4th appearance, last in 2020); Battle of the Eastern Solomons (7th appearance, last in 2017; 80th anniversary); Hurricane Andrew (5th appearance, last in 2018; 30th anniversary); Magnus Barefoot (3rd appearance, last in 2019); William Wilberforce (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Anže Kopitar (2nd appearance, last in 2019)

—howcheng {chat} 17:23, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]