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Another item to consider[edit]

Poznań 1956 protests

Zzyzx11 (Talk) 03:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Especially with 2 weak items currently on the template, waiting to be displaced. --PFHLai 19:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

June 28[edit]

It says be bold and update the page yourself but when I tried, it was protected. Please update for 40th anniversary of the Stonewall riots tomorrow:

1969 – Gays and lesbians fighting back against persecution, the Stonewall riots begin at the Stonewall Inn in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of New York City.

Thanks. - ALLST✰R▼^echo _{wuz here} 20:40, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is currently protected since it is about to go on to the main page.

In any case, the Stonewall riots article has been selected as the Main Page featured article for June 28, 2009. An event is generally not posted on OTD if it is also the subject of this year's scheduled featured article, especially when the first sentence in the Main Page TFA caption essentially repeats what would have been posted on OTD. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 22:05, 27 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal[edit]

I propose adding Case Blue to this day, as it bears historically significance and has been improved during the last months to be somehow representable. Its the Nazi German 1942 strategic summer offensive aimed at the caucasian oilfields, which failed later at Stalingrad. Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria also had been vastly improved by someone, so you may should mark this article as bold instead of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand article. StoneProphet (talk) 16:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2012 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Bodo League massacre
Omitted: Saxophone; Thomas Hickey (soldier); Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria; Stonewall riots; Hafte Tir bombing
Included: Battle of Sullivan's Island (first appearance); Case Blue (first appearance); Poznań 1956 protests (5th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Gazimestan speech (first appearance); 2009 Honduran coup d'état (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 09:28, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Constitution Day (Ukraine)[edit]

I created today Constitution Day (Ukraine) (a public holiday (in Ukraine)); may it please you to include it in this in this Template? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 00:58, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, the article is only a stub, and according to the rules, we cannot include it. —howcheng {chat} 10:47, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

New articles (ineligible): Constitution Day (Ukraine) (stub)
Moved to Ineligible: Operation Red Wings (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Sullivan's Island; James Reavis (ineligible—maintenance); Case Blue; Poznań 1956 protests; Gazimestan speech; 2009 Honduran coup d'état
Included: Saxophone (4th appearance, last in 2011); Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Bodo League massacre (first appearance); East Jerusalem (first appearance); Hafte Tir bombing (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 10:55, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Irish Civil War; Regents of the University of California v. Bakke; Operation Red Wings
Omitted: Saxophone; Bodo League massacre; East Jerusalem; Hafte Tir bombing
Included: Battle of Berestechko (3rd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); James Reavis (3rd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Stonewall riots (8th appearance, last in 2011); Iraqi Interim Government (first appearance; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 100th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 05:17, 27 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bloodstained uniform[edit]

Please let's not be so ghoulish as to use this image, especially on the main page. Unnecessary sensationalism when photos of the actual people are so readily available. Awien (talk) 23:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Come on, admins. I'm talking about the image accompanying the item on the 1914 assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, scheduled to run on Sunday. Surely there's someone who sees how morbidly sensationalising this is. Please pull it. Awien (talk) 12:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't gotten around to doing the updates for this year yet. —howcheng {chat} 15:28, 22 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle of Berestechko; James Reavis; Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria; Stonewall riots; Iraqi Interim Government
Included: Giselle (2nd appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible); Ned Kelly (10th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Irish Civil War (first appearance); Gazimestan speech (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Operation Red Wings (first appearance; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:27, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: East Jerusalem (maintenance)
Omitted: Giselle; Irish Civil War; Gazimestan speech; Operation Red Wings
Included: Battle of Sullivan's Island (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Saxophone (5th appearance, last in 2013); Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria (4th appearance, last in 2014); Poznań 1956 protests (6th appearance, last in 2012; 60th anniversary); Hafte Tir bombing (3rd appearance, last in 2013)

—howcheng {chat} 15:59, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Berestechko (maintenance); Gazimestan speech (maintenance); Adam Osborne (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Sullivan's Island; Saxophone (ineligible—maintenance); Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria; Poznań 1956 protests
Included: Alboin (first appearance); Giselle (3rd appearance, last in 2015); SS Norge (first appearance); Case Blue (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 75th anniversary); 2009 Honduran coup d'état (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Muhammad Azam Shah (first appearance); Meralda Warren (first appearance); Martha Wise (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Adam Osborne
Omitted: Alboin; SS Norge; Case Blue; 2009 Honduran coup d'état; Muhammad Azam Shah; Meralda Warren; Martha Wise
Included: Battle of Sullivan's Island (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Nakhla meteorite (first appearance); Regents of the Univ. of Cal. v. Bakke (4th appearance, last in 2006; 40th anniversary); 2016 Atatürk Airport attack (first appearance); Primož Trubar (first appearance); Paul Broca (first appearance); Yvonne Sylvain (first appearance)
Repeats: Giselle (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:59, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal[edit]

@Howcheng: Is it possible to nominate the Hafte Tir bombing for 2019 OTD? It was on the main page in 2013 for last time. Regards! Saff V. (talk) 09:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Saff V.: Looks like the discussion is still ongoing, as the orange maintenance tags have not yet been removed. Regardless, we have a 1989 item that gets priority this year, so even if this were eligible, it wouldn't be included. —howcheng {chat} 16:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle of Sullivan's Island; Giselle; Nakhla meteorite; Regents of the Univ. of Cal. v. Bakke; 2016 Atatürk Airport attack; Primož Trubar; Paul Broca; Yvonne Sylvain
Included: Alboin (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Treaty of Versailles (5th appearance, last in 2007; 100th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); Stonewall riots (9th appearance, last in 2014; 50th anniversary); Gazimestan speech (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 30th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); 2009 Honduran coup d'état (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 10th anniversary); William Hooper (first appearance); Charles Cruft (showman) (first appearance); Meralda Warren (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 60th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 22:02, 15 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Irish Civil War (maintenance)
Omitted: Alboin; Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand/Gavrilo Princip; Stonewall riots; Gazimestan speech; 2009 Honduran coup d'état (ineligible—maintenance); William Hooper; Charles Cruft (showman); Meralda Warren
Included: Adolphe Sax (first appearance; blurb previously featured Saxophone, which is currently ineligible, and is making its 6th appearance, last in 2016); James Reavis (4th appearance, last in 2014; 125th anniversary); Bodo League massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 70th anniversary); Adam Osborne (4th appearance, last in 2006; 30th anniversary; rescued from Ineligible); James Tuchet, 7th Baron Audley (first appearance); James Madison (first appearance); Amira Hass (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 23:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Franz Stangl
Omitted: James Reavis; Bodo League massacre; Adam Osborne; James Tuchet, 7th Baron Audley; James Madison; Amira Hass
Included: Battle of Sullivan's Island (4th appearance, last in 2018); Poznań protests of 1956 (7th appearance, last in 2016); 2016 Atatürk Airport attack (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Pope Leo II (first appearance); Paul Broca (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Martha Wise (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: Adolphe Sax (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 175th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 04:14, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Operation Red Wings (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Sullivan's Island; Adolphe Sax; 1956 Poznań protests; 2016 Atatürk Airport attack; Pope Leo II; Paul Broca; Martha Wise
Included: Alboin (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Giselle (5th appearance, last in 2018); SS Norge (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Case Blue (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 80th anniversary); Regents of the University of California v. Bakke (5th appearance, last in 2018); James Tuchet, 7th Baron Audley (2nd appearance, last in 2020); William Hooper (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Franz Stangl (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:52, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]